Saturday, July 4, 2009

For 2012, the choice for all Republicans, including Libertarian Republicans is now Mitt Romney

by Eric Dondero

Perhaps Sarah Palin will come up with some knock-out explanation for her dropping out yesterday, which would change my mind on things. But I doubt it. As one of her earliest supporters, and as one of the three original "Draft Sarah Palin for VP" people from 2007 (along with Stephen Maloney and Adam Brickly), I gotta say I was truly baffled and dejected by the whole press conference yesterday.

I take her by her word: The pressure on her family was just way too much, and the kids wanted her to step down, most especially after the renewed attacks on their little brother Trig.

In case you haven't heard about this yet, incredibly, there's a headline story on Huffington Post, that has since been taken down, but still cached, attacking Palin for supporting a "Mental Retardation agenda" a clear reference to her baby boy.

Even so, I've got the feeling this morning that she's let her supporters down. Those of us who've stood by her through thick and thin, got only a vague promise of "more to come," and a Twitter in a few days explaining her reasons. Sorry Sarah, but that's not enough. Too late. The balloon is deflated, and unless you come up with some spectacular explanation, this is one staunch supporter of yours who'll be moving on.

To Mitt Romney, that is.

Just yesterday I was writing in LR comments how Romney would be the natural choice now for all Republicans. How ironic a Wall Street Journal editorial this morning completely echoing my sentiments. From Gerald Seib at the WSJ:

For this unsuccessful 2008 Republican presidential contender, it is hard to imagine how events could be moving more decisively in his favor in 2009. One can almost hear him wondering: Why didn't things break this way last year?

Let us count the ways that the world has conspired to help Mr. Romney. At a time when the Republican Party is straining to find new leaders, other prominent party members who aspire to that role -- Govs. Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindal and Mark Sanford, and Sen. John Ensign -- have stumbled or, in the case of Gov. Sanford, flamed out in spectacular fashion. Mitt Romney now looks by comparison like the serious adult in the room.

Beyond that, the national agenda is squarely focused on the economy -- which plays to Mr. Romney's strength as a successful businessman -- rather than on national security, which benefited Sen. John McCain in last year's primaries, or on the social issues where Mr. Romney's tendency to shift about has caused him so much trouble.
The editorial goes on to cite Michigan and the problems of the auto industry as playing right into Romney's strong points. Seib then goes on to write:

Republicans are looking for a voice to speak for the party in exile, and Mr. Romney is starting to fill the role quite nicely.
My sentiments precisely.

Is Mitt Romney a "libertarian Republican" like Sarah Palin or Mark Sanford? No. But he is a libertarian-leaning Republican, and that's certainly good enough for me. He may be best described as a "Western Conservative," despite his ties to New England, and the upper Mid-West. Recall, Romney kicked ass in just about every primary and caucus West of the Mississippi in 2008, from Montana to Alaska to Nevada to the Dakotas. That's prime libertarian country.

I'm just fine with a Reagan-style Western Conservative as our Party's nominee for 2012, and I'm going to start planning for that inevitability.

74 comments:

Anonymous said...

I don't know about him now. My understanding is that he also supports the Nationalized Healthcare that Zero and the rest of the idiots are trying to pass.

BTW I won't be on here very much for as of now. 2 wks ago as of today, some guy feel asleep at the wheel and ran right into my house, doing over $40,000 worth of damage in my front livingroom and extra room. No one got hurt thankfully. The boys and I were home at the time it happened. Yes the isurance will pay for it.

Rita-Texas

Eric Dondero said...

Holy shit Rita!!!

My gosh. Our prayers and thoughts are with you and yours.

Take care of yourself. We'll see you back here in a few weeks. Take all the time you need.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Eric.

Rita-Texas

stefan said...

Sorry to hear about it Rita. Must have been a terrible shocking experience, hearing all that noise and seeing the damage and wondering what would have happened if you or your children or both were that moment at the wall where the impact took place... Is the house safe now? I mean you do not want burglars etc. to enter. Glad the sleeping driver also did not get hurt. Good that you have insurance, will they pay in full?

Best regards and wishes and God's strength.

stefan said...

Eric, hmmm quite a few Romney supporters have actually joined Paul int he meantime, including Doug Wead, who contributed the max, e.g. 2300 USD to Romney's campaign.

So you think the Bush-Paulson was a good idea after all? Too bad they cannot find out where the money went...
Romney also differentiate between Jihadists and Islam...and I am sure you will have a problem with that...

libhom said...

Romney has no chance. The GOP will never nominate someone who isn't a Christian.

stefan said...

Alert Alert!
A few days ago an article on this site was published about all the 8 GOP congressmen that voted for the "Cap and trade" ooops "Cap and Tax" and urged that they should be voted out of office. Now it is turning out that Romney's Free and Strong PAC is supporting at least two of them: Michael Castle and Mark Kirk out of only a few candidates this year and next year (so far).
http://www.freestrongamerica.com/candidates/

So the question is how does Eric clear this internal inconsistency up and what explanation he will provide..... Note that of course one does not always agree withe the candidate you are supporting on everything. Paul's Liberty PAC also supports candidates not 100% in agreement with him on every issue, BUT the cap and tax bil is a major watershed bill, just like the bailout of last year. How can you say you are a Republican, not even talk about a libertarian leaning Republican and support at least two politicians who voted for a major all across the board increase in electricity etc. taxes, during a time of recession, none the less!

Better think twice about supporting Romney, Eric...my dear friend

Eric Dondero said...

Yes, Paul does support only candidates who are 100% in agreement with him. And therein lies the problem.

Paul is only 50% right on the issues.

He's nearly 100% right on domestic policy. Nearly 100% wrong on foriegn policy.

His pro-freedom stances on domestic issues are completely cancelled out by his pro-fascist stances on foreign policy.

It's a crying shame.

Eric Dondero said...

On Castle and Kirk, I honestly don't know. I think Castle is somewhat worse than Kirk. I really don't have an answer if it's better to let the Dems keep these two seats, or support the super squishy Republicans.

Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins occasionally get it right. So, perhaps it might be slightly better to hope for wins by squishy mods, particularly in the Northeast?

Than again, I couldn't fault anyone for voting Libertarian in any of these races.

The Right Guy said...

Unless someone else comes forward, I would most likely support Jindal. Romney is a Sears Mannequin.

Carlos Echevarria said...

Eric I was there in the Draft Movement, too.

I associate myself hundred percent with your analysis regarding the Governor, whom I admired beyond belief.

Smart move would have been to seek re-election and explore your options in 11, never thought 12 was her year anyway.

Barring that, SERVE OUT YOUR TERM, travel abroad to places like South Korea, China, Russia, Japan, etc, promoting Alaska/US interests and by extension garnering foreign policy experience/contacts.

Visiting troops is fine and honorable, but you need to also meet divergent leaders in those host nations, gaining a broader int'l. perspective.

Opting out of the 10 race for me would have been bad enough, but i think you could spin it, but resigning your post at this juncture in time??? with that rambling and incoherent speech yesterday???

hrh said...

Actually, this is a brilliant move by Palin.

She is weeding out those who aren't truly for reforming government. Such as this blog and Carlos, etc.

I thought you liked her because she was unconventional, an outsider, who would come in and clean up?

And yet she does an unconventional and brave move and you drop her?

Her speech was not rambling at all. But it was not politics as usual.

For example, didn't your new guy, Romney (ROMNEY????) do just what she criticized? His last year drawing an MA governor's paycheck, he spent most of his time outside the state putting together his presidential campaign?

She won't do that because she believes that is not right.

Now she knows who is truly for reform and who talks the talk but doesn't really want to walk the walk.

Brilliant.

For a Libertarian site, you disappoint.

Eric Dondero said...

Carlos, sorry for the slight. Yes, you were one of the "originals," right there with Adam, Stephen and me.

I agree wholeheartedly.

Worst thing about yesterday, is that she failed to acknowledge her diehard supporters nationwide who've defended her at every turn.

She put her Family First. Understandable. Admirable. But also, whether she meant it or not, it came off as a slight for her non-Family member Supporters.

She can win me back. But it's gotta be something that will knock my socks off.

I do like Sean Parnell a bunch. He'll do great. Sarah did a great thing by giving Sean a chance to shine on the national scene.

But that wasn't enough. She needs to do something magnificent now to win back many of her diehard supporters.

Eric Dondero said...

hrh, how is this "brillant." She comes across like she's walking off her job. Now, if she had immediately announced for President in 2012, that'd be one thing. Everyone could understand that.

But because her 4 kids urged her to not be Governor any more. That was rather weak. Strong from her Pro-Family perspective. But weak for those of us who are individualists and love Sarah for her individualist values, and don't particularly care for the "family values" part.

stefan said...

hrh: I think you hit the nail on the head. i listened to her speech again, yes the issue with her kids being attacked is a contributing reason, but not the main reason. The main reason is that she is too principled for real change she promised, and could not fulfill with all the requirements of the forced upon federal govt. "stimulus bill" that the governors had to accept. Does the governor not have any say at all. Romney would have gladly accepted the aid and probably used it for his MA model of socialized healthcare. There is an interesting article on a blog at the WSJ: "The MA debacle coming soon to your neighborhood" about his plan. Now I will be pragmatic and realize MA is one of the most liberal states and accept that the majority of the voters there may like such a solution, but this is no reason to force other states (via federal govt.) the same solution. People will be more satisfied if each state chose between a state run care program, a private sector and market based and possible options in between, and so "experiment". As the writer of the article points out Romneycare claims health care would be less expensive if everyone were covered. Reducing costs while increasing access are irreconcilable issues. Knapp has pointed out that health care will be important and RomneyCare has not been proven a success.

You need more market competition, to reduce the money the middle man gets and for those with no health care, churches and other non-profit organizations can provide, as was the case before medicare and medicaid.

Sarah Palin has raw talent, the right instincts, but not yet the wisdom and experience that comes with time. I think the McCain campaign int he end hurt her more than helped her. if they had not picked her as VP, she would have still be governor probably, perhaps not as well known but could quitely be successfull and go for a second term easily and would have built up a record as a reformer and would have been set for a presidential campaign in 2016 (0r 2020?).
It seems as if she will be active in actions promoting issues close to her heart int he future, through the whole country. She is still young. She is taking the heat off her. If she wants to go into politics later, she can run for congress (in place of Don Young) or senate (perhaps first congress, then senate) and build up from there. She saw herself as a lame duck gov. at the moment. If there is a GOP swept into power in the future a la 1994 with the right principles, she can rejoin politics, as the sentiment will be good then.

stefan said...

Sean Parnell sounds like a nice guy. Also he was very surprised about Palin's decision. Eric, there is probably more than one way one can interpret Palin's decision. She apparently decided about it already a while ago, at least a few days ago. Part of me also tell me she should have stuck it out. She would have had a few overseas trips to promote. I do not think she was ready for 2012, or wanted to, and Ann Coulter thinks the same, Coulter saw her as a possibility for 2016. She should have at least decided to complete her term as gov. if she did not want to run again and kept a low profile, but perhaps a revolutionary spirit in her tells her she is a non-conformist with the current terrible system evolving. She did not decide only for family-reasons, but also because she thinks she could not carry out her reform agenda, if you listen closely, and principle is for her above personal interest as governor. If she wants to be in politics again, it may now require her to be at least a congresswoman or senator for a term at least if she wants to go for president. But she would only do it if she has the support for a reform agenda, e.g. a 1994 style revolution... I suppose with her Sarah PAC she can give speeches to help bring about such a political revolution as well and complete/write her book and achieve for certain causes. Education and causes for "abnormal" children are two of her main issues. She can also work with the Eagle Forum, for instance.

Former LR Reader said...

You know its funny, when some of us said Romney was the better choice in 2012, we were told by Eric to "fuck off" and leave his Blog. Now that Palin is out of the picture, suddendly, Romney is looking good again.

bint alshamsa said...

Oh my goodness, Rita! I'm so glad you and the kids weren't hurt! I will keep you in my prayers.

Take care!

*hugs*

bint alshamsa said...

Rita,

by the way, is there anything we can do to help? Are you in need of anything right now? What part of Texas are you in?

C.C. said...

The nightmare scenario earlier this week, that the GOP would rally around Romney, is scarily coming to fruition. Then again, he's fresh meat for Bambi anyway so rally around Willard at your own peril. We're fucked either way.

How the hell anyone can turn against Sarah Palin because of an unconventional political move (wouldn't that be what libertarianism is supposed to be about?) and yet still support somebody trying to one-up John Edwards tells me all I need to know. Of course I expect this from a Barr supporter.

The Right Guy said...

Palin's speech sucked. I guess her speech writer was away for the holidays. I don't think she was being totally forthright about why she quit and what she is going to do. If she is going to run in 2012, she should have stayed in office. This is crazier than when McCain went back to DC to save the economy. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.

As far as Romney goes, may be Eric converted to Mormonism.

bint alshamsa said...

The Right Guy,

It IS rather bizarre. For the first time, in quite a while, I'm actually curious about what her plans are.

Kn@ppster said...

Right Guy,

You write:

"Palin's speech sucked. I guess her speech writer was away for the holidays."

The whole way she rolled this thing out indicates that her decision was made quickly, and under pressure rather than after careful consideration -- Thursday night or Friday morning, after her staff had all departed on what they expected to be an uneventful holiday weekend.

The prevailing theory, as far as I can tell, is that she got clued into a scandal about to break, and decided to get the hell out of Dodge instead of fighting it. That's not typical Sarah Palin, but it's the only thing that makes sense.

"As far as Romney goes, may be Eric converted to Mormonism."

I doubt that. On the other hand, there's a good chance that he's under the sway of Mormon money -- from what I hear, his latest job is lying to people in Maine and trying to convince them that unless they sign a petition to reimpose theocracy, their churches will be forced to marry Adams and Steves.

The Right Guy said...

Knapp:
I was kidding about the Mormon thing. Actually, we have a few in Iowa, and although I don't agree with their religion, they are pretty good people from my dealings with them. I wonder if Eric told them he's a swinger before taking their money. :)

I didn't know Eric went to Maine. I have property in Jackman and I would have given him some sights to see. It's a very pretty state.

hecountedwrong said...

I think you guys are crazy for jumping ship so early. This could be a huge opportunity for Sarah Palin to promote the ideas we often see written about on this site. She couldn't do that from Alaska. Hell, that would have resulted in an ethics complaint. I think you should sit tight and not endorse "squish" candidates like Romney. He was my governor, and he was OK, but he is nowhere in the league of Sarah Palin. And libertarian, he is not.

I love your blog but I see absolutely no reason for abandoning Palin right now. She has left a Lt. Gov. in charge who will govern exactly as she has, without the negative attention stemming from ethics complaints. I trust that she is doing the right thing, and believe she will be extremely influential over the next couple years.

Anonymous said...

Bint-thank you. We're fine and are staying at my mom's house. I'm getting hold of the insurance company Monday to get the ball rolling. Sorry if I couldn't answer some of your questions on the other articles. I can get on mom's computer but it won't let me post anything. So I have to wait until I get back to my house to get on the computer to post.

BTW, Palin's speech wasn't perfect but unlike Obama, she doesn't need those teleprompeters either. Just wait. She's not going to disappear into thin air. She made that very clear.

Rita-Texas

Anonymous said...

Folks, she's not rich. She's got like over 10 ethnics complaints filed against her. Now, try to picture yourself as a governor and then trying to fight these bogus lawsuits plus trying to protect your family from these idiot so called reporters who are attacking them. I can imagine, it's not easy. Of course out of the Libs playbook, they won't stop reguardless.

Rita-Texas

Gary said...

***MITT ROMNEY???***

The man is a poor candidate. In the 2008 primaries he basically won only a few low population caucus states. In direct election primaries he failed to win anything big outside of Michigan and Massachusetts.

Plus he is a Liberal Republican.

Anonymous said...

thank you Stefan.



Mitt Romney supports Nationalized Healthcare, from what I heard. If that's true then he's off my list of people to look for in 2012.

Rita-Texas

The Right Guy said...

there is always Huckabee... He did well in my state, surprisingly.

Eric Dondero said...

hecountedwrong,

Sarah has let her supporters down. She gave no indication yesterday that her supporters should continue to back her. In fact, there's one report from a close friend of hers, I saw, saying that her supporters should now feel free to back other candidates for 2012.

Look, I'm real dejected by her departure. If she had given us some sort of sign of hope, I'd feel differently.

Besides, I've always like Romney. He's not quite as libertarian as Sarah, but he's close enough.

And dare I say it, the female/mother thing is at work here, as well. Romney is not strapped down, (geez, I hate to use the word "burdened" here), by 5 kids, with two of them having all sorts of teenager problems. Romney's kids are all grown. He's better able I think to run a full-fledged Prez campaign than Sarah.

I'm not totally abandoning Sarah, I'm just getting more and more enthusiastic about Mitt every day.

We libertarians need to support him. Of course, you all are free to do as you please. But this is the direction I'm heading in...

Eric Dondero said...

C.C. why am I "turning against Sarah"? Cause she let me down.

She talked all about her family yesterday, and their importance in her decision. Understandable. Of course, they come first.

But she didn't say jack about her supporters, those of us who've stood by her through thick and thin. Don't we count?

Obviously, I don't pretend to think that she should put our needs and wants in the same category as Willow, Trig, husband Todd, et.al. But we do deserve some consideration.

All she gave us was the promise of a "Twitter soon," with some news.

Sorry Sarah, I wanted that news yesterday. I don't want to wait for some vague promise of "staying active." I'm anxious for a super duper Presidential campaign to challenge the Fascism of Hussein Obama. If you don't come out with that on Monday, or by the end of the week at the latest, I'm going 100% with Mitt.

Eric Dondero said...

Show me where I ever told Romney supporters to "fuck off," and leave LR Blog???

I was a staunch supporter of Romney all through the latter part of the GOP primaries. There is nothing that I ever said that could be interpreted in any way as being demeaning to Mitt Romney in 2007/08.

You Sir, are sadly mistaken. Now, I've said a lot of mean things about Huckabee. But absolutely not Romney. Perhaps you've got "Mike" and "Mitt" confused?

Nixon said...

The GOP seems to be a having a massive crisis of leadership. Sanford's sexual exploits and Palin's bizarre resignation are only compounding the problem. Check out Anderson Cooper talking with Palin's spokeswoman Meg Stapleton, it's almost as if we've entered the Twilight Zone. I just hope Steele can pull off a miracle in 2010, because things aren't looking so good at the moment.

Gary said...

***2010****
I ran the numbers for the first mid-term election for new Presidents for over 100 years.

HOUSE - The opposition party picks up on average 24 seats.

SENATE - Shock, It breaks even on average. In a number of mid-terms the Administration party even gains a few Senate seats. I guess the "glow" of a new President is still there.

The Republicans will gain only because thay are not Democrats. I still firmly believe the GOP is totally Liberal. So the end result will be throw out a few Libs and replace them with a few Libs. Only with proportional representation can we break this horror of Liberal control.

C.C. said...

Hey Eric, Sarah letting ME down would be drinking Tequilas and singing Sweet Caroline with Ted Kennedy while signing a super-duper fascist Obama-lite healthcare bill.

Plus, it's still ALASKA (not Cali or Texas). How exactly is she supposed to advance on a national scale up there?

Bottom line, why should she spend 16 months (that she needs to bone up if she has any aspirations) tied to a bunch of secret nanny-state "conservatives" who think Lisa Murkowski, who had a 16% ACU rating at last count, is the cat's meow? (check Alaska Standard if you don't believe me

As I said, support Willard at your own peril.

Ran said...

Rita, Thanks to Providence you and yours were out of the way. Godspeed.

"Perhaps Sarah Palin will come up with some knock-out explanation for her dropping out yesterday, which would change my mind on things." Eric, yeah.

Look, never in my lifetime have I ever seen such relentless destruction focussed so intensely on one political candidate. I though Bush Derangement Syndrome was over the top... that was the warm-up act. These "ethics" charges... they don't need to be valid. They only need to exist. The whole point of the sheer number is to overwhelm and destroy.

I think the tactic and the result ought to be a warning to us all. Those who hold by Alinsky's Rules are quite literally ruthless.

C.C. said...

See that's another thing, these non-stop "ethics" charges, they'd have kept going and going (and the liberal-lite Murkowski GOP ain't gonna do a damn thing to stop cause the two are secretly aligned) until they hit at least $2mil! Who the hell seriously thinks she should "fight the good fight" in those circumstances?

Fuck the GOP anyways, they helped give us this "great change". Why the hell should she go down with the ship?

C Mill said...

This is a super weird revelation, Eric. Romney is a statist, just like McCain, but dressed in Mormon clothing.

Did you listen to Palin's press conference? Her children were cited as a reason for stepping down, but I took the reason to be that their futures are at stake with this current Marxist Chicago thug regime (obviously my words, not hers). I believe that she wants to make a difference on a national level, not just a state level, while our country is going to hell in a hand basket.

Resigning as Governor makes perfect sense to me. She turns over the reigns to Parnell who will govern in a similar style to hers, and, if reelected, will not hatchet all the work she has done. He goes into the 2010 election as the incumbent with 18 months experience, a great advantage. Alaska first. Passing the basketball for the other player to score. Adam Brickley has a great piece on his take on this at

http://the-brickyard.blogspot.com/2009/07/palin-actually-extended-her-influence.html

Please, listen to the speech again, or read it at Conservatives4Palin. It's a remarkable speech. No teleprompter, just covering the points she wanted to cover. You might think she's Crazy, but I think she is Crazy like an Arctic Fox.

C.C. said...

Eric the bottom line is this, I can't even list all the reasons why this was a genius move. But fact of the matter is she goes down and stumps for Rick Perry you'll be back on her bandwagon faster than Obama can side with leftist dictators.

William said...

Rita,

I guess you could say I am from the meditation school, as opposed to the school of prayer. I always thought that when you pray, you talk and God listens. Conversely, my belief is, that when you meditate, God talks, and you listen. At any rate, I will be thinking of you during my next meditation session.

God speed in getting your life organized again.

Will

bint alshamsa said...

William,

"Conversely, my belief is, that when you meditate, God talks, and you listen."

That is a beautiful concept.

Tajitj said...

WHAT. The only thing Libertarian about Romney is.... wait, nothing. What if Gary Johnson would announce his intention to run. Gary Johnson or Mitt Romeny for you Libertarian-Republican readers?

Eric Dondero said...

LT, precisely. Sanford added to Sarah's somewhat bizarre resignation is just making our Party look weird. I love them both, dearly. But they've hurting the Party right now. (John Ensign too.)

Who is the one single Republican who is not doing any damage to the GOP, and actually looking quite stable and sensible right now?

Mitt Romney

Eric Dondero said...

C.C. I took the press conference to mean that it was her 5 kids that told her to resign and she was following along with their wishes.

Sarah is ultra-Family Values. She puts her family above and beyond everything else in life.

And in one sense that is extremely honorable and admirable. But from the sense of her supporters, who are not family, it leaves us high and dry.

She needs to spend a little time coveting her supporters, if she wants our continued support.

Why didn't she do a simple conference call hours before the press conference with Team Sarah to explain what was about to happen?

She just left us all hanging. And I'm a bit upset about it.

Eric Dondero said...

C Mill, Romney is not at all a "Statist." In fact, quite the opposite. He's a solid libertarian-conservative. He's a National Review/Ronald Reagan style Conservative. Look at his record. Even in ultra-Left Massachusetts he governed as a free market guy.

And on social matters, recall in that one interview he was asked pointedly about pornography being available in the hotel chain that he's part owner of. And he responded: "Not the business of government to be regulating the private lives of adults..."

Here's a statistic for ya...

Out of 120 Mass. House of Reps members, only 8 of them are Republicans. In the State Senate, out of 60, only 6 are GOP.

The fact that Romney was any sort of fiscal conservative in a State as far left as that, is utterly amazing.

ccoffer said...

Eric,
You're wasting your time comparing Romney to Reagan. These booger-eating assclowns would call Reagan a statist too. Plus he's a Mormon. Bad people those Mormons.

Invariably when you ask one of these brainless children what candidate they actually would support, they come up with a name no one has ever heard of, someone whos dead or someone with absolutely no chance of winning. Its just an example of how gutless these "libertarian" acolytes are. No risk in supporting someone who'll never win, you see.

Meanwhile their country is being literally torn down by a bucktoothed Marxist chipmunk and they are essentially silent on the issue. No the big issue is whether we can destroy the real definition of marriage for the sake of one half of one percent of the population.

Gutless. Stupid. Treasonous really.

stefan said...

Chuck: Hmmm only that Romney said he was an Independent during the time of Regan during his debate with Kennedy, remember? You have some problem there.. Yes Reagan himself was not perfect as well. As governor he also raised taxes, probably before he learned about Art Laffer's model
He allso had a very D congress ann Senate, so one can understand he could not push his whole programme through. From 2000-2006 the GOP had it all, yet did nothing to shrink govt, but expanded it and remember W also ran as a "Reagan Republican" and not in his father's tradition. he did lower taxes, which was about the only good thing he did, but increased spending, which reagan and Bush 1 also did.

I am surprised your historical knowledge is so shallow. Did George Romney, Mitt's father, not run against Barry Goldwater ? and is Reagan not in the tradition of Goldwater and NOT of George Romney? Mitt Romney is int he tradition of the Rockefeller Republicans, just like Bush 1 & 2. Goldwater-Reagan-Paul represent the libertarian line in the GOP, not Rockefeller-Bush-Romney.

The way you use libertarian, Bill Maher could also call himself a libertarian, and he is very far form one. I have never heard Romney calling himself a libertarian in any way. He would probably call it "voodoo economics", like Bush 1.

C Mill said...

Eric, I could never debate you on the details of Romney policy during his years in office. Amongst other reasons, I come to your website to get details on good news on the freedom front from the individuals within the states. I haven't found the information you provide anywhere else. So thanks.

Back to Romney, how can he be so much of a libertarian though with the one major offense of his health care plan? Reagan has a great speech on socialized medicine from the 1960's. He says the traditional way of imposing socialism on a people has been through medicine. It's very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project. Romney did exactly that, but in a major compulsory program in his state. This was not smaller government; this was major government encroachment on the people.

My other major problem with Romney is his plasticity. He is more of the same in the business of politics. I believe his principles may be bought, traded, or sold. Here's a video of "Candidate" Romney (I doubt you'd find similar footage of Palin talking to a voter). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY6UTnS6Z-A

I'm surprised you didn't jump ship to Gov Perry when Palin disappointed you so much... Initially, I thought the Romney endorsement was a joke.

The Right Guy said...

Chuck:
Romney is a flip-flopper, and in a relatively short amount of time, seemingly coinciding with offices for which he was running. Pro-choice, then pro-life, anti-gay marriage, then pro-gay marriage. Which is it? The guy goes with the wind, and against his own religion. There are better choices. Eric et al is just going with the talking points. It's too early to start coronating a candidate just yet.

Ran said...

Eric,
Dan Riehl has a very different take.

"Twenty-ten will be a pivotal year and Romney, Gingrich, Huckabee and potentially others with their eye on 2012 will be using it to campaign for various politicians and build the network they envision helping them in 2012. It would be impossible for Palin to participate in that process as the sitting governor of Alaska. The logistics, bad press and potential ethics complaints were she to spend a large amount of time out of the state as she held the governorship would work to her great disadvantage."

Patience. Yeah, she could have handled it better, but she may yet be in the game in her own way on her own terms.

She came away recently from various interviews as if she had whined about unfair coverage. I think Dan's point is interesting in that regard. she's simply changing the rules of engagement.

The libertarian message is growing rapidly amongst women - note the rise in women's NRA classes and CCW permits. I think they're the future. I think independence-oriented strong women, such as Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann, will accelerate it and lead.

I'm not crazy for Mitt. Perhaps in a month or two. Let's let the dust settle a bit.

Former LR Reader said...

Eric,

I know one of your writers for the Blog and he told me that when he questioned whether or not Palin should be the main candiate for 2012, you told him by private email that it was either Palin or nobody and if he didn't like it he could write for another blog.

C.C. said...

Eric, just know that you're now supporting the candidate of choice of HuffPoop and DailyKOOKS, yep that's the ticket!

Anonymous said...

If Mitt Romney is the nominee, the Republican party is over, finished, done.

ccoffer said...

Is Mitt Romney a hate-filled anti-American Marxist ideologue with a track record that consists of nothing more than a book he (supposedly) wrote about himself and a stint as a protest organizer for a domestic Communist cell?

If not, then he has my enthusiastic support.

Why? Because I'm a grownup who doesn't hate this country with every fiber of his being.

ccoffer said...

Who is the candidate you support in '12, "right guy"?

Who do you currently support? What is the name?

Just curious.

Someone is going to win. If someone better could have won, its the fault of men like you.

Peter Pan is dead. May he rot.

The Right Guy said...

Chuck:
It's 2009 for god's sake. There's plenty of time for other people to get involved. Wouldn't you rather have a choice instead of anointing Romney now? If Romney wins the primary we'll have something to discuss, until then, cool off. Arguing about Romney now would be like arguing about Giuliani in 2005. Let's wait.

ccoffer said...

I have every choice in the world, "guy". I'm just curious as to why so many "libertarians" have a hard-on for Romney.

Could it possibly be because he's not an Atheist???!!(the holiest form of human ever!!)

Deists abound.

The Right Guy said...

Chuck:
My only objection to Romney is that he has shifted his positions to get elected. Some of these positions, such as abortion, leave to wonder where he really stands. Being a Mormon, I would think he would be pro life, but that wasn't the case. I just don't know where he really stands.

Kn@ppster said...

ccoffer,

You write:

"I'm just curious as to why so many 'libertarians' have a hard-on for Romney.

"Could it possibly be because he's not an Atheist???!!(the holiest form of human ever!!)"

I suspect that Romney's religious background will hurt him more with evangelical Christian conservatives than it will with atheist libertarians.

I have "a hard-on for Romney" because he's a pandering, untrustworthy big-government phony.

Anonymous said...

William and Ryan-thank you both.

Rita-Texas

Anonymous said...

Mitt Romney is a far-left liberal Republican.

He supports Universal Healthcare and was for the TARP Bailout.

Ron Paul or Gary Johnson are the only choices for 2008. They both stand up for liberty.

Eric says Ron Paul has a "fascist" foreign policy. He might benefit from reading Ron Paul's book "A Foreign Policy of Freedom" and also looking up the word fascist in a dictionary.

Thanks for bastardizing the word libertarian, Eric.

ccoffer said...

Its pathetic how children feel compelled to judge politicians as though they governed as autocrats.

Romney was the governor of Masschushits for fuck's sake! Massachushits!!

Think about it. No one governs alone. We don't have kingdoms. We have states.

Couves said...

Romney is not a libertarian, but he's not a bad choice either. He had the good sense to oppose the bailout and he has a real understanding about how free markets work.

The Right Guy said...

Knapp:
RE: Romney, amen.

The Right Guy said...

Anonymous:
2008 is past, it is dead, and so are those candidates chances of winning the white house. Secondly, Eric knows more about Paul than either of us put together.

The Right Guy said...

Chuck:
And some think Obama was born in a manger and is the ruler of the free world. So much for ruling by the people. Me, I am waiting to see him rip his own face off exposing electronic circuitry. That would be revealing.

The Right Guy said...

The last libertarian out of Massachusetts was Samuel Adams. Since then it has been downhill, with the Kennedy's driving the bus over the cliff. Romney is a good looking republican version of Kerry.

Kn@ppster said...

"I am waiting to see [Obama] rip his own face off exposing electronic circuitry. That would be revealing."

Really? That's what I always expect to happen with Romney.

If Obama ripped his own face off, there'd be a gerbil on a wheel inside his head, jogging and reading an old issue of People. Oh, and over in the corner a beatnik smoking a joint.

The Right Guy said...

Knapp:
I could see Romney doing that too. I did say he was like a Sears Mannequin. :)

Laura Lee said...

I hadn't heard that it was about attacks on her children. That's awful. It's been horrible. Well, bless her for being a great mom. It's a better job that POTUS anyway. (I always said so.) Besides, this nation is going to split by 2012. Palin wouldn't have to be so concerned about press attacks. (We'll all love her in the free nation - and those foreigners can go to Hades.)

ccoffer said...

Where is Hades? Is it in the ground?

ccoffer said...

"And some think Obama was born in a manger and is the ruler of the free world."

guy,
Was an analogy your intent? If so; how so?

Best,
Chuck

The Right Guy said...

Chuck:
Some people believe that...